Elizabeth Price – Weiler Kip and Simone’s New Gym

March 11, 2014

So, according to her athlete profile on USAG’s site, Simone is going to be training at World Champions Centre. Yes, that’s centre with an RE, mate. Now, I thought Simone’s coach, Aimee Boorman, started this club but according to the comments on Beautiful Gymnastics I was wrong. Simone’s parents started the gym.

Anyway, I was kind of bummed to hear Simone Biles wouldn’t be at the American Cup because I really wanted to see if she’d been able to upgrade her single toe point vault to a double toe point vault. It turns out I still got to see something cool. Elizabeth Price’s Weiler Kip. Of course, she’s actually been doing this since at least 2011 so I guess I haven’t been paying close enough attention.

Elizabeth Price’s Weiler Kip technique approaches what the men use.
When the men do weilers, at least the ones that are good at it, they start in handstand, drop to the knee or below, swing through front support with hips clear of the bar to handstand. Price’s weiler is good until she has to touch the bar at the end. Even so she doesn’t touch the bar above the upper thigh.

Typically, the weilers done by females start in handstand, drop to the hips or upper thigh, pike swing to piked front support with hips on the bar, and cast to handstand. Price’s technique may not be perfect but it is leaps and bounds better than what we’ve seen before this.

Woo Hooo!! Gymnastics on BONES!

December 7, 2013

Lol!! They’re totally acting like the dead gymnast must be so abused because of all her injuries. How butt-hurt is the gymnternet going to be over this?

Sooooo, is it a coincidence that Amanda’s dad was a physicist? Like wasn’t Shannon Miller’s dad a physicist? His chalkboard is kind of funny. I’m watching Numbers. For the longest time I thought Charlie Epps used blackboards because he had some kind of eccentric preference for them. I just recently started to think that it might be because the chalkboards show up on tv better. Moving on.

Doesn’t the gym seem overrun with teenaged girls? That club had more post-pubescent gymnasts in it than wherever the heck post-pubescent gymnasts usually hang out. And where were all the coaches anyway?

Funny how Mckayla’s character couldn’t stick her layout six months ago yet she’s number two to a girl who could do a double pike. And what was she doing spotting this girl anyway? What the hell kind of gymnastics club is this?

Mckayla trying to look shocked is a little funny. I think it was a bit over the top. I think it wouuld be neat if she pulled a Cameron Diaz. Do a bunch of good quality smaller projects with good quality talent and just learn as much as she can.

No way the coach really did it. There’s ten minutes left in the show. This is my tried and true method of figuring out who didn’t done it when it comes to tv shows.

OOOOOh! Didn’t see that one coming.

WTF I did not see THAT coming either.

OMG. The part at the end with Amanda’s dad explainiing his equations to Dr. Brennan is beautiful.

Is That Aly?

November 23, 2013

That was my thought when I saw the preview for the next episode of Bones. Season 9, episode 11 – The Spark In The Park. I saw a clip of a gymnast landing a layout and it looked like an “Aly” landing. But, unless Aly has a cameo in the episode, it’s not her. The cast list only mentions Maroney…and, when I watched (and re-watched and paused at 0:18) the clip that some fast and fabulous person uploaded like two seconds ago, it definitely looks like Maroney.

The Jeffersonian team investigates the murder of a nationally ranked gymnast, whose remains were hit by lightning and scattered throughout a publihough evidence points to a fellow gymnast (guest star Maroney) as the key suspect, Brennan and Booth discover the victim was leading a double life. Meanwhile, Booth gets upset when Brennan shows surprising empathy for the victim’s father (guest star Schiff), and Cam confronts the woman who stole her identity in the all-new “The Spark in the Park” episode of BONES airing Friday, Dec. 6 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (BON-909) (TV-14 D, V)

I didn’t see any of Maroney’s other appearances because I don’t watch those shows. I’m looking forward to watching this. Ummmm, Dr. Brennan apparently has something to say about the toll gymnastics takes on gymnasts’ bodies which probably matches exactly with reality – so some folks will probably be upset about that. [OMG!!!111!! How can she say anything NEGATIVE about gymnastics!!!???]

The Case of the Hellish Hook

November 14, 2013

In an earlier post, I described what Simone Biles’ feet look like when she’s vaulting. I found a photo that captures it.

I wonder how she can fix this? Maybe just concentrate a little harder? Or use a tool like flipping wings or some twisting belt rig that creates a similar effect so that’s all she has to focus on. ((fix those feet. fix those feet. fix those feet)).

She doesn’t have too far to go. Watching her vault from worlds, you can see that both feet start out pointed with a little overlap. As she twists, the bottom foot begins to hook severely around the top foot. The actual degree of crossing isn’t that bad. It’s that major hook-age that makes it looks much worse than it is.

The FIG Swears Gymnastics Doesn’t Stunt Growth

November 14, 2013

The FIG put together a committee to figure out whether gymnastics stunts growth. The committee that was put together by the International Gymnastics Federation actually came out with a result that was favorable to gymnastics. Who would have thought?

From Gymnast To Actress

November 14, 2013

Sophie Nélisse is in the movie, “The Book Thief“.  She was a high level gymnast not too long ago.  Of course, I was hoping I could find some video but google has let me down on that score.  I’m not too let down because I think as she becomes more famous, a video or clips of her gymnastics will probably pop up. 

So far all I’ve got is some results.  Some scores from a US meet:

Level 9 age 11 – 12 for WimGym at the Ocean State classic in 2012. 

VT 8.450, UB  8.050, BB  9.250, FX  9.050, AA 34.800

At 2012 Elite Canada she finished 14th in the National Novice Catagory. 



Fadwa Speaks

October 29, 2013

Coach Rick posts a link to an interview of Fadwa Mohamed by WoGymnastike. In some respects, it’s puzzling:

Gigi: The Produnova is an incredibly dangerous vault, have you ever been afraid of attempting it.

Fadwa: I was never scared of doing it. Its not dangerous for someone who has a body like mine.

Why does she think her body type is the main factor in what makes this vault dangerous or not?

Personally, I think WoGymnastike did a really good job of grilling Fadwa about that vault. That’s what everyone wants to know about, that’s for sure.

Like Coach Rick, I’m really not fond of seeing people crash their way into a final. He wants to see vault landing deductions double. Others favor lowering the start value of the vault or downgrading it similar to the way twisting vaults are downgraded for lack of twist.

I don’t think the vault deductions should be doubled because that puts the event even further out of line with the other events. Some people have a problem with doubling the deductions because that would severely hurt people’s chances to recover from an error. I don’t care about that. Medalists should be the gymnasts that hit their routines. People like Maroney shouldn’t be able to fall on half their skills and still win a medal.

I don’t think lowering the start value would do anything to fix the problem. It would still be the hardest vault in the code with a huge scoring advantage. I also don’t agree with giving skills bogus values in general. The skill should be rated what it’s worth.

Downgrading the vault is an option that makes a lot of sense. It’s in line with what they do with other skills that aren’t complete. Also, these WAG gymnasts that are chucking the double front basically are just doing a single front while trying to sneak in another flip. It’s a lot different from someone like this dude, Marius Berbecar. This guy competed a double front in the vault final for 2013 worlds. His landing was a bit peculiar. Although he fully extended his legs for the landing, he ended up bending into a deep squat, almost touching the butt to the matt. That was clearly a double front with a bad landing. Unlike what these ladies are doing. For them it’s straight to the butt.

I’d like to see two things happen. First, I want to see the feet first rule redefined to mean that the gymnast has to show at least momentary support on the feet. Secondly, instead of giving a zero to the vault, which judges seem reluctant to do unless nobody’s safety is actually in danger, maybe vault could have special requirements like the other events. I don’t know how many special requirements there could be for vault. Last time I checked the other events had five at .5 each for a total of 2.5. Let’s say each vault has one special requirement, to land feet first. If not, that’s 2.5 points off the score, plus the fall, plus the other deductions.

So Pena’s 14.9 for her Produnova in Qualifying at 2013 Worlds which would have become a 12.4. I can hear the Pena fans crying now but that’s a proper score for a crash, if you ask me.

10,000 Rule debunked (again)

October 11, 2013

How come every time somebody “debunks” the 10,000 hour rule, they use being good enough to play in the NBA as an example of what it means to be expert.  Being the very best at something and being an “expert” are not the same thing.  There are an unlimited number of spots in the expert catagory.  There are a limited number of spots when you talk about being the very best at anything.  It’s so ridiculous that people can’t seem to get this straight.  I really believe it’s because they just don’t want to.  There are a lot of people out there who did put that 10,000 hours of directed training in and got really good BUT they didn’t get the record deal, or they didnt’ get into medical school, or they didn’t get into the NBA.  Hey, they’re not the very best, but are you really trying to tell me they’re not experts at what they do?  That makes no sense. 

Coach Rick http://gymnasticscoaching.com/new/2013/10/10000-hour-rule-debunked/ quotes Epstein:

Epstein quoted:

… for an American man aged between 20 and 40, standing between 6ft and 6ft2in the chances of playing professionally in the NBA are five in a million. If he’s 6ft2in to 6ft4in there is a still-distant 20 in a million chance. But if he’s 6ft10in to 7ft, the odds shorten to 32,000 in a million. And if he stands 7ft, there is a one-in-six chance he will currently be playing in the NBA. …

And goes on to say himself:

Height is far more important than number of hours trained in that sport.

LOL!!  Here we go again with the example of the 7 footers getting into the NBA.  Guess they must be “experts” since they got into the NBA.  Think again Epstein.  It’s a well known phenomenon that those 7 footers don’t always play the game that well.  They actually might not be experts.   Maybe they might’ve been if their training had had the proper direction.  That’s another thing that some people ignore about the 10,000 hour rule.  The training is supposed to be directed properly.  You can’t just train any old way for 10,000 hours and expect to become an expert. 

And as far as height being far more important in basketball:  Height may be important to the people who pick the teams, but it isn’t important in determining who is and who isn’t an expert at playing the game.  Just because somebody is not selected to play in the NBA doesn’t mean they aren’t an expert.   



From Fug to Fourth (IN THE WORLD!!!)

October 11, 2013

Remember Simone Biles’ first year as a junior elite when she had the fugliest bar routine ever?  The bar routine that made you go, “WTF, is this seriously a US elite?  Are we sure she’s not from Sri Lanka?”  Ok, it was actually way better than anything we’ve ever seen from a gymnast from Sri Lanka, but it was really, really bad for a US gymnast.  Honestly, it was mostly those nasty half turns.  Her feet flopped and crossed madly on every single one.  With like five half turns in the routine, it was a hot, fugly mess.

Fast forward to friggin’ fourth in the bar final (of the world)!  Day-um!  I don’t really care who wasn’t there.  For somebody, ANYBODY to turn that fug all the way around to fourth in the world?  That’s awesome.  It actually makes me think there’s hope for someone like Skinner. 

Let’s just hope all that time at camp rubbing elbows with Kyla’s coaches have made an impression on Simone’s coaches.  Sixteen is like a danger zone for elite gymnasts.  So many hit sixteen and the next thing you know, they’re injured.  I have to wonder if Kyla’s coaches knew she was in the danger zone and, after the Olympics, made adjustments to keep her healthy.  While all over the gymternet, people who apparently have not been watching too many 16 year old elites get injured for too many years bitched and bitched about Kyla’s lack of upgrades, I held my breath hoping it was a sign Kyla’s coaches actually had a plan.  I still don’t know if they had a plan but if they did, I hope it’s a plan that I hope more coaches, including Simone’s, catch onto and start using.   

Coach Rick posted:

Some feel Simone should have won that Vault final in Antwerp.

Really?  People think Simone should’ve won with crossed feet on her Amanar and a lower value on her second vault.  What?  Speaking of Simone’s crossed feet, I think they are getting much better.  She actually has one foot perfectly pointed on her Amanar but since the other one is fully clubbed and hooked around the first foot, it makes her legs look a lot more crossed than they are.   


Does Shang Chunsong Need Excuses?

October 11, 2013

Shang Chunsong is the newest teeny Chinese gymnast that people are suspicious of. Of course, that also makes her the newest teeny Chinese gymnast to have age defenders coming out of the woodwork in support of. I’ve even read a claim that Shang is small because her family was poor and she was malnourished. Is that really true?

I thought Shang went to the gymnastics sports school for her county at age six or seven. I’ve read that children train at these schools and are away from their families for weeks at a time. The school would’ve been responsible for feeding her and if the family paid tuition, wouldn’t it cover food? It would make no sense for them to let her train if she didn’t have enough food to fuel that training. There’s no reason for Shang to be any more malnourished than any other Chinese gymnast.

Anyway, without any sort of evidence to say she’s an age cheater – or malnourished – I think it’s fine to say she’s just small. Because honestly, some people really are just small.


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